Comments on: The future of libraries http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/ Bootstrapping the web since 1994 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:07:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: bibliotalkr http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-28840 bibliotalkr Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:39:03 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-28840 [...] Min pointe i oplæget var faktisk at biblioteket sikkert ikke forsvinder fordi vi får mere brugerdrevne tjenester, og at bibliotikaren kan være med til at gøre internettet bedre. Brugerne kan naturligvis selv lave deres egne samlinger og det gør de i rigt mål, udfordringen bliver derfor ikke at få brugerne til at styre bibliotekerne, men rettere at lade brugerne styrke bibliotekerne, og omvendt. Det sker ikke medmindre der kommer nogle mere åbne kontaktfalder end dem vi kender i dag. Som Thomas Madsen-Mygdal, som jeg iøvrigt har lånt et par inspirerende punchslines fra, tidligere har sagt, så er bibliotekerne “nørder i distrubtionsformen: papir”. Bibliotekerne står som jeg ser det overfor mange udfordringer i forhold til at forstå og bruge sociale teknologier i deres service. I særdeleshed skal man alvorligt revidere og genforhandle bruger-relationen. Bibliotekerne har qua deres store og historiske binding til fysisk distribtution dybest set et lettere anstrengt forhold til brugere. Let karikeret kunne man sige, at brugerne meget let bliver mis-brugere. I det fysiske bibliotek er det sociale altså typisk noget negativt, mens det på nettet kan bruges til noget godt. Tænk på google som bliver bedre af at man bruger det, eller last.fm som den ulitmative musik-bibliotikar. Hvad lærer biblioteket af mig når jeg har lånt noget, og hvad kan andre bruge min brug til! [...] [...] Min pointe i oplæget var faktisk at biblioteket sikkert ikke forsvinder fordi vi får mere brugerdrevne tjenester, og at bibliotikaren kan være med til at gøre internettet bedre. Brugerne kan naturligvis selv lave deres egne samlinger og det gør de i rigt mål, udfordringen bliver derfor ikke at få brugerne til at styre bibliotekerne, men rettere at lade brugerne styrke bibliotekerne, og omvendt. Det sker ikke medmindre der kommer nogle mere åbne kontaktfalder end dem vi kender i dag. Som Thomas Madsen-Mygdal, som jeg iøvrigt har lånt et par inspirerende punchslines fra, tidligere har sagt, så er bibliotekerne “nørder i distrubtionsformen: papir”. Bibliotekerne står som jeg ser det overfor mange udfordringer i forhold til at forstå og bruge sociale teknologier i deres service. I særdeleshed skal man alvorligt revidere og genforhandle bruger-relationen. Bibliotekerne har qua deres store og historiske binding til fysisk distribtution dybest set et lettere anstrengt forhold til brugere. Let karikeret kunne man sige, at brugerne meget let bliver mis-brugere. I det fysiske bibliotek er det sociale altså typisk noget negativt, mens det på nettet kan bruges til noget godt. Tænk på google som bliver bedre af at man bruger det, eller last.fm som den ulitmative musik-bibliotikar. Hvad lærer biblioteket af mig når jeg har lånt noget, og hvad kan andre bruge min brug til! [...]

]]> By: Pedro Custódio http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22864 Pedro Custódio Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:49:42 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22864 I'll keep an eye for it then! ;) I’ll keep an eye for it then! ;)

]]> By: Slyngborg.net · Ind i kampen…. http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22863 Slyngborg.net · Ind i kampen…. Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:45:57 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22863 [...] Claus Dahl får syntetiseret dilemmaet på smukkeste vis, i en kommentartråd på Bootstrapping.net. Anledningen er Thomas Madsen-Mygdahls indlæg på Fra silo til samtale forrige uge. [...] [...] Claus Dahl får syntetiseret dilemmaet på smukkeste vis, i en kommentartråd på Bootstrapping.net. Anledningen er Thomas Madsen-Mygdahls indlæg på Fra silo til samtale forrige uge. [...]

]]> By: Thomas Madsen-Mygdal http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22860 Thomas Madsen-Mygdal Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:59:51 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22860 @pedro. hmm, might just do that one day - but it will need comments/more slides to get the narrative/statements. @pedro. hmm, might just do that one day – but it will need comments/more slides to get the narrative/statements.

]]> By: Pedro Custódio http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22857 Pedro Custódio Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:16:33 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22857 C'mon Thomas! :) Translate that presentation! It's like taking candy from little children. ;) C’mon Thomas! :)
Translate that presentation! It’s like taking candy from little children. ;)

]]> By: Nikolaj Stagis http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22839 Nikolaj Stagis Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:53:04 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22839 Hi Thomas. Nice talking to you yesterday! I enjoyed it very much. Just went through this presentation - was curious because you mentioned it. Actually I was talking to one of the socalled "central" libraries (Fyn) through a few years and the move from one mindset to the other was really difficult. It's not easy to redefine your self-image even though it may only be a new form in which you fulfil the same role... Hi Thomas. Nice talking to you yesterday! I enjoyed it very much. Just went through this presentation – was curious because you mentioned it. Actually I was talking to one of the socalled “central” libraries (Fyn) through a few years and the move from one mindset to the other was really difficult. It’s not easy to redefine your self-image even though it may only be a new form in which you fulfil the same role…

]]> By: Thomas Madsen-Mygdal http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22834 Thomas Madsen-Mygdal Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:55:52 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22834 @claus. good that it's the same - consensus... @claus. good that it’s the same – consensus…

]]> By: Claus http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22833 Claus Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:48:39 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22833 Fair deal. Your message in that regard is btw. very close to what I had to say when Thomas Angermann asked me to take part in a session om the user driven library future... Fair deal.
Your message in that regard is btw. very close to what I had to say when Thomas Angermann asked me to take part in a session om the user driven library future…

]]> By: Thomas Madsen-Mygdal http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22832 Thomas Madsen-Mygdal Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:30:37 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22832 @claus. offended - i'm just stating what i actually communicated to someone who wasn't there. the message is they need to try, really care - but also step out of their own monoculture and hire the best people in denmark (the world?) to do interface design, conceptual development, visual design, programming, usability, etc. @claus. offended – i’m just stating what i actually communicated to someone who wasn’t there.
the message is they need to try, really care – but also step out of their own monoculture and hire the best people in denmark (the world?) to do interface design, conceptual development, visual design, programming, usability, etc.

]]> By: Claus http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22831 Claus Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:24:51 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22831 Come on - let's not waste time being offended. What I'm saying is simply that trying beats being best. They need to try so much more than they need to be best. Come on – let’s not waste time being offended. What I’m saying is simply that trying beats being best.

They need to try so much more than they need to be best.

]]> By: Thomas Madsen-Mygdal http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22829 Thomas Madsen-Mygdal Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:30:26 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22829 Well, it's what i could come up with with my limited vocabulary, there's probably a better word for it. Well, it’s what i could come up with with my limited vocabulary, there’s probably a better word for it.

]]> By: Claus http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22828 Claus Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:45:09 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22828 "World class" is consulting speak in my book. “World class” is consulting speak in my book.

]]> By: Jens Hofman Hansen http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22825 Jens Hofman Hansen Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:57:32 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22825 Yikes, my link to the blog post didn't come out well. Here it is: http://avisen.dk/blogs/hofman/Fremtidens-bibliotek-d_F800_dsd_F800_mt-_1320_-eller-hvad_3F00_-180107.aspx Yikes, my link to the blog post didn’t come out well. Here it is:
http://avisen.dk/blogs/hofman/Fremtidens-bibliotek-d_F800_dsd_F800_mt-_1320_-eller-hvad_3F00_-180107.aspx

]]> By: Jens Hofman Hansen http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22824 Jens Hofman Hansen Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:56:54 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22824 Yup, I noticed a few hints of the fact that libraries are somehow close to your heart. That's actually the perspective of my blog post</a>. I'll try to find your mail address and send you a mail. But hey, I work at a library so expect a snail mail in a few days. ;-) Yup, I noticed a few hints of the fact that libraries are somehow close to your heart. That’s actually the perspective of my blog post.

I’ll try to find your mail address and send you a mail. But hey, I work at a library so expect a snail mail in a few days. ;-)

]]> By: Thomas Madsen-Mygdal http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22823 Thomas Madsen-Mygdal Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:18:44 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22823 @jens. glad that you enjoyed it. send me an email and let's figure something out, start by having a cup of coffee. as you probably recognized the core role of a library in civic society is very close to my heart... @jens. glad that you enjoyed it. send me an email and let’s figure something out, start by having a cup of coffee. as you probably recognized the core role of a library in civic society is very close to my heart…

]]> By: Thomas Madsen-Mygdal http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22821 Thomas Madsen-Mygdal Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:45:31 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22821 @claus. The statement was getting back to the core, back to the basics, back to the original meaning of a library. Don't recall any slides about cutting edge innovation, only that their digital services are designed on a world class level - if you take a look at biblioteket.dk i think both of us knows hundreds of people that could transform that experience substantially. @claus. The statement was getting back to the core, back to the basics, back to the original meaning of a library. Don’t recall any slides about cutting edge innovation, only that their digital services are designed on a world class level – if you take a look at biblioteket.dk i think both of us knows hundreds of people that could transform that experience substantially.

]]> By: Claus http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22820 Claus Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:20:15 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22820 I'm digging the phaseshift slide - but not so much the YOU NEED TO BE STATE OF THE ART/cutting edge interface and innovation bit at the end. As far as I'm concerned it is exactly one of the points of now, that small is good and that experiments are OK. The libraries truly don't need cutting edge innovation. They need to stop hesitating and get out there (to paraphrace T.S. Høeg) I’m digging the phaseshift slide – but not so much the YOU NEED TO BE STATE OF THE ART/cutting edge interface and innovation bit at the end.

As far as I’m concerned it is exactly one of the points of now, that small is good and that experiments are OK. The libraries truly don’t need cutting edge innovation. They need to stop hesitating and get out there (to paraphrace T.S. Høeg)

]]> By: Jens Hofman Hansen http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22819 Jens Hofman Hansen Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:49:05 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22819 That was indeed an exciting and highly relevant presentation. Probably the most inspiring and clear cut one I have heard for a few years in the library world. You were the center of all discussion the rest of the day - and I am still thinking about what you said today. I would really like to hear your thoughts again another time in a library context. Was this a one-time only or can the libraries still buy your time for another presentation? :-) That was indeed an exciting and highly relevant presentation. Probably the most inspiring and clear cut one I have heard for a few years in the library world.

You were the center of all discussion the rest of the day – and I am still thinking about what you said today.

I would really like to hear your thoughts again another time in a library context. Was this a one-time only or can the libraries still buy your time for another presentation? :-)

]]> By: Brugernes Bibliotek · Tak for sidst http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22818 Brugernes Bibliotek · Tak for sidst Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:03:53 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22818 [...] Da ikke alle blogs dukker op på Technorati er her et foreløbigt overblik over de der taler om konferencen: iRandersbib: Tanker fra konferencen Brugernes Bibliotek bootstrapping.net:  The future of libraries Bibliotek 2.0 DK: Brugernes Bibliotek, 1. oplæg: Stig Hjarvad Bibliotek 2.0 DK: Brugernes Bibliotek, 2. oplæg: Thomas Madsen-Mygdal [...] [...] Da ikke alle blogs dukker op på Technorati er her et foreløbigt overblik over de der taler om konferencen: iRandersbib: Tanker fra konferencen Brugernes Bibliotek bootstrapping.net:  The future of libraries Bibliotek 2.0 DK: Brugernes Bibliotek, 1. oplæg: Stig Hjarvad Bibliotek 2.0 DK: Brugernes Bibliotek, 2. oplæg: Thomas Madsen-Mygdal [...]

]]> By: Naja Slyngborg http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/comment-page-1/#comment-22811 Naja Slyngborg Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:56:00 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2007/01/17/the-future-of-libraries/#comment-22811 - Et godt indspark, det var fremragende med en råt for usødet udmelding. Og en endnu mere fremragende efterfølgende tilhører-kommentar (forudsat den er rigtig), med at du søgte på den <i>forkerte måde</i> ;) - Et godt indspark, det var fremragende med en råt for usødet udmelding.

Og en endnu mere fremragende efterfølgende tilhører-kommentar (forudsat den er rigtig), med at du søgte på den forkerte måde ;)

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