Comments on: The New Reality of the Net http://bootstrapping.net/2006/12/14/the-new-reality-of-the-net/ Bootstrapping the web since 1994 Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:03:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Andre Ribeirinho http://bootstrapping.net/2006/12/14/the-new-reality-of-the-net/#comment-22765 Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:43:10 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2006/12/14/the-new-reality-of-the-net/#comment-22765 I'm also amazed by the kind of attention that Secondlife gets from traditional media. When new ideas come up they have to take a certain time before the majority of people understand them. But Secondlife in terms of idea is not new. There has always been conversation around the topic of virtual life. So people have become used to the term virtual life. Secondlife just fullfills that now materialized space. I’m also amazed by the kind of attention that Secondlife gets from traditional media.

When new ideas come up they have to take a certain time before the majority of people understand them. But Secondlife in terms of idea is not new. There has always been conversation around the topic of virtual life.

So people have become used to the term virtual life. Secondlife just fullfills that now materialized space.

]]> by: Jane http://bootstrapping.net/2006/12/14/the-new-reality-of-the-net/#comment-22758 Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:39:34 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2006/12/14/the-new-reality-of-the-net/#comment-22758 I saw your presentation on how words matter earlier and I agree with you. Language is action or a "doing", and we need to be careful about the way we go about it. I can't think of any specific terms that'll bridge the dichotomys we keep sustaining and reproducing, but I know some people would suggest an alienating language (for instance instead of 'offline' you would describe the actual practice of being away from your computer), but that seems a bit too particular to me. I haven't thought it through, but I think we could come a long way by using words we would use in other situations. For instance "I talked to", "I saw him/her" and so forth, and simply leave out words like real/virtual etc. Actually I wouldn't suggest trying to make up specific replacements words. If we do so, it suggests that we still think of netuse as something extraordinary to our lives, and isn't that what we don't want to do? As I see it that was the point you guys put forward so eloquently on the show. I saw your presentation on how words matter earlier and I agree with you. Language is action or a “doing”, and we need to be careful about the way we go about it.

I can’t think of any specific terms that’ll bridge the dichotomys we keep sustaining and reproducing, but I know some people would suggest an alienating language (for instance instead of ‘offline’ you would describe the actual practice of being away from your computer), but that seems a bit too particular to me. I haven’t thought it through, but I think we could come a long way by using words we would use in other situations. For instance “I talked to”, “I saw him/her” and so forth, and simply leave out words like real/virtual etc. Actually I wouldn’t suggest trying to make up specific replacements words. If we do so, it suggests that we still think of netuse as something extraordinary to our lives, and isn’t that what we don’t want to do? As I see it that was the point you guys put forward so eloquently on the show.

]]> by: Thomas Madsen-Mygdal http://bootstrapping.net/2006/12/14/the-new-reality-of-the-net/#comment-22757 Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:07:33 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2006/12/14/the-new-reality-of-the-net/#comment-22757 @lisa. apparently in a hippie commune. always love when old hippies call me who might as well be called a suit-wearing capitalist a hippie. sign of the times. @jane. you're probably way too polite. agree very much in the language - the three of us who we're on the show discussed it afterwards, how a big part of it is the missing language to describe today's "reality"... did a presentation in september describing language's role in change, http://bootstrapping.net/2006/09/29/dead-words-walking/. it's important. any ideas on the terminology? @lisa. apparently in a hippie commune. always love when old hippies call me who might as well be called a suit-wearing capitalist a hippie. sign of the times.

@jane. you’re probably way too polite. agree very much in the language - the three of us who we’re on the show discussed it afterwards, how a big part of it is the missing language to describe today’s “reality”…
did a presentation in september describing language’s role in change, http://bootstrapping.net/2006/09/29/dead-words-walking/. it’s important. any ideas on the terminology?

]]> by: speedy http://bootstrapping.net/2006/12/14/the-new-reality-of-the-net/#comment-22755 Thu, 14 Dec 2006 18:37:36 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2006/12/14/the-new-reality-of-the-net/#comment-22755 And here in a more standard compliant format (mp4 ipod ready). <a href="http://vpodcast.dr.dk/512/Deadline%202.%20Sektion_DR2_10_12_2006_22_49_02.MPG.mp4" rel="nofollow">mp4 video</a> And here in a more standard compliant format (mp4 ipod ready).

mp4 video

]]> by: Jane http://bootstrapping.net/2006/12/14/the-new-reality-of-the-net/#comment-22754 Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:52:51 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2006/12/14/the-new-reality-of-the-net/#comment-22754 Hi Thomas, you did very well on telly last sunday. The programme was interesting, Jes Stein Pedersen seemed well prepared, and especially yours and Niels Ole's comments were very much in tune with the need for de-exotification of "the new net"...how ever it still seems that the language; online/off-line, real/virtual needs some brushing up. The language reflects a dichotomy which all of you argued (we all do) doesn't exist. Hi Thomas, you did very well on telly last sunday. The programme was interesting, Jes Stein Pedersen seemed well prepared, and especially yours and Niels Ole’s comments were very much in tune with the need for de-exotification of “the new net”…how ever it still seems that the language; online/off-line, real/virtual needs some brushing up. The language reflects a dichotomy which all of you argued (we all do) doesn’t exist.

]]> by: lisarisager.dk http://bootstrapping.net/2006/12/14/the-new-reality-of-the-net/#comment-22753 Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:14:07 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2006/12/14/the-new-reality-of-the-net/#comment-22753 <strong>Hippie 2.0</strong> Hvis nu internettet lukkede i et år, hvordan ville dit liv så blive? ... Hippie 2.0

Hvis nu internettet lukkede i et år, hvordan ville dit liv så blive?

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