Comments on: Should Community-Edited be Community-Owned? http://bootstrapping.net/2006/07/26/should-community-edited-be-community-owned/ Bootstrapping the web since 1994 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:46:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Thomas Madsen-Mygdal http://bootstrapping.net/2006/07/26/should-community-edited-be-community-owned/#comment-22580 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:40:59 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2006/07/26/should-community-edited-be-community-owned/#comment-22580 they should be able to - but today really can't because they're locked in. they can't get their data out, they can't be a part of the community using other tools. seperation of tool and community is the issue. and as far as i know we've never seen as much lockup on community in mankind's history before - see my debate with Tim O'reilly on this, http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2005/09/what_is_web_20.html they should be able to - but today really can’t because they’re locked in.

they can’t get their data out, they can’t be a part of the community using other tools.

seperation of tool and community is the issue. and as far as i know we’ve never seen as much lockup on community in mankind’s history before - see my debate with Tim O’reilly on this, http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2005/09/what_is_web_20.html

]]> by: Morten http://bootstrapping.net/2006/07/26/should-community-edited-be-community-owned/#comment-22579 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:32:24 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2006/07/26/should-community-edited-be-community-owned/#comment-22579 Good point What will happen to Myspace, Dating.dk.etc Will they just have their 15 minutes and then the crowd will move on to the next big thing (like a new club in the night life)? Good point

What will happen to Myspace, Dating.dk.etc Will they just have their 15 minutes and then the crowd will move on to the next big thing (like a new club in the night life)?

]]> by: Thomas Madsen-Mygdal http://bootstrapping.net/2006/07/26/should-community-edited-be-community-owned/#comment-22577 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:17:10 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2006/07/26/should-community-edited-be-community-owned/#comment-22577 I don't think it's an issue of which is better. I think the real issue is that very few people in the future will contribute to a for-profit entity for free - if it isn't user-owned and nonprofit. And if not, just become salaried employees of a megacorp. Yochai Benkler nails this in much better prose than i, http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2006/07/benkler_on_cala.php I don’t think it’s an issue of which is better. I think the real issue is that very few people in the future will contribute to a for-profit entity for free - if it isn’t user-owned and nonprofit. And if not, just become salaried employees of a megacorp.

Yochai Benkler nails this in much better prose than i, http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2006/07/benkler_on_cala.php

]]> by: Morten http://bootstrapping.net/2006/07/26/should-community-edited-be-community-owned/#comment-22576 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:35:42 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2006/07/26/should-community-edited-be-community-owned/#comment-22576 Jason is absolutely doing the right thing. Eventhough I like Digg I couldn't help smile when their response was that they might start giving away t-shirts instead of paying. I guess you could make an "open source" project but its not always better than the commercial project - people wanting something (money) is a strong incentive to do something special: http://wired.com/wired/archive/14.06/challenger.html Jason is absolutely doing the right thing. Eventhough I like Digg I couldn’t help smile when their response was that they might start giving away t-shirts instead of paying.

I guess you could make an “open source” project but its not always better than the commercial project - people wanting something (money) is a strong incentive to do something special: http://wired.com/wired/archive/14.06/challenger.html

]]> by: Thomas Madsen-Mygdal http://bootstrapping.net/2006/07/26/should-community-edited-be-community-owned/#comment-22574 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:38:40 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2006/07/26/should-community-edited-be-community-owned/#comment-22574 It doesn't appear that the link you mentions was user-owned - and that might have been one of the big reasons for the failure. In the real world most communities are user-owned. It doesn’t appear that the link you mentions was user-owned - and that might have been one of the big reasons for the failure.

In the real world most communities are user-owned.

]]> by: dragos http://bootstrapping.net/2006/07/26/should-community-edited-be-community-owned/#comment-22573 Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:48:23 +0000 http://bootstrapping.net/2006/07/26/should-community-edited-be-community-owned/#comment-22573 a user-owned community might be more difficult to be managed. See <a href="http://www.businesspundit.com/50226711/the_business_experiment_what_i_learned_about_the_limits_of_peer_production_wisdom_of_crowds_and_other_web20_philosophies.php" rel="nofollow">this</a> as an example. a user-owned community might be more difficult to be managed. See this as an example.

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